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Somebody can tell us something about his skills in performances using Wing Chung Technique? What about the introducing part of Disciples of Shaolin?

Some instructor on here in the thread?

I look at the position of the wrists...

Alexandra

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Somebody can tell us something about his skills in performances using Wing Chung Technique? What about the introducing part of Disciples of Shaolin?

Some instructor on here in the thread?

I look at the position of the wrists...

Alexandra

He is performing Hung Gar Fist, not Wing Chun. As he was taught by Lau Sifu, I'm sure he's doing it right! From what I've heard and read, Lau Sifu was a perfectionist when it came to showing the moves of his beloved art correctly, especially when it was one of his students performing the techniques. I'm not a Hung Gar practitioner (yet), but it looks outstanding to me.

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He is performing Hung Gar Fist, not Wing Chun. As he was taught by Lau Sifu, I'm sure he's doing it right! From what I've heard and read, Lau Sifu was a perfectionist when it came to showing the moves of his beloved art correctly, especially when it was one of his students performing the techniques. I'm not a Hung Gar practitioner (yet), but it looks outstanding to me.

Akkkk! :S I noticed my mistake now! I meant "Hung Gar"! Sorry! I wrote the message in a rush, and put it wrong words. Sorry again. Lau Kar Leung is a perfectionist and I love him. A master.

Alexandra

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KFB, you ought to write reviews for MA Movie news! LOL!:D

That was really a nice comment/review of Disciples of Shaolin, one of a few great Fu Sheng films. I also like New Shaolin Boxers which has a similar story, and with Jenny in a role as well. Johnny Wang Lung Wei is a nasty bastard in this one!

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KFB, you ought to write reviews for MA Movie news! LOL!:D

That was really a nice comment/review of Disciples of Shaolin, one of a few great Fu Sheng films. I also like New Shaolin Boxers which has a similar story, and with Jenny in a role as well. Johnny Wang Lung Wei is a nasty bastard in this one!

Thanks bro! I followed DISCIPLES up with (it's 90's remake) THE BARE-FOOTED KID. It's no classic, but it was very good. I hadn't seen it in a long time, and was pleasantly surprised. But Arron doesn't have half the charisma as Fu Sheng!

NEW SHAOLIN BOXERS was a good one. :D

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hey just some input,in disciples of shaolin in the intro you see Fu Sheng performing the iron thread fist (tit sin kuen) this is the highest and most advanced set in hung gar kuen...

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hey just some input,in disciples of shaolin in the intro you see Fu Sheng performing the iron thread fist (tit sin kuen) this is the highest and most advanced set in hung gar kuen...

Hello teacher!

After my great confussion when I wrote "wing chun" :cry: meaning "hung gar" :monkey02 (forgive me!) I'm very interested in your observation. I'm a simple Tai Chi disciple, I only see colleagues training Hung Gar. Can you send a picture or a part of this introduction when Alexander is doing the movement for recognize it? :)

When you say "kuen" you mean "chuen" as we pronounce? Or is another bleff mine?:cry:

Thanks!

Alexandra

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Hello teacher!

After my great confussion when I wrote "wing chun" :cry: meaning "hung gar" :monkey02 (forgive me!) I'm very interested in your observation. I'm a simple Tai Chi disciple, I only see colleagues training Hung Gar. Can you send a picture or a part of this introduction when Alexander is doing the movement for recognize it? :)

When you say "kuen" you mean "chuen" as we pronounce? Or is another bleff mine?:cry:

Thanks!

Alexandra

Hi Alexandra,

as CLF Nole said kuen is the cantonese word for fist and in mandarin its chuan or sometimes written quan...so same meaning.

I have a video of Iron thread fist on my youtube channel,right now they have a site maintainance so I cant get the link will add it on later...XD

also Fu Shengs intro of the movie Disciples of shaolin is on youtube...

Franky

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Hi Alexandra,

as CLF Nole said kuen is the cantonese word for fist and in mandarin its chuan or sometimes written quan...so same meaning.

I have a video of Iron thread fist on my youtube channel,right now they have a site maintainance so I cant get the link will add it on later...XD

also Fu Shengs intro of the movie Disciples of shaolin is on youtube...

Franky

Hello Teacher!

Oh I understand very well... in Choy Li Fat, in cantonese "kuen", in mandarin "chuan" ("quan" as in wengshenquan) I wrote "chuen" because we pronounce in that way. The same occurs with Choy Li Fat, I read in some places Choy Lei Fut, Choy Lee Fat, etc. Puzzle of vowels.

I saw the video on YouTube and post a commentar. Thanks for the video and the explanation-

Alexandra

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I post this question because I went to another thread that kept me thinking. Alexander's health troubles limited his performances in Brave Archer 3, Brave Archer 4 and Life Gamble. He is not boring the audience, he could not do too much. What think the "team" here?

Alexandra

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The more I look at the release dates for Fu Sheng's films, it does not make sense that during "Life Gamble", he was suffering from any injury.

You are correct. Fu Sheng was not suffering from either of his "Black Sept." injuries during the shooting of Life Gamble. Problem is in creating a proper chronology of events, we need to look at production dates and not release dates.

For example, Life Gamble was shot and completed in 1977. Well before the first (Sept '78) injury. As for 10 Tigers? Fu Sheng was working on that film in the summer of '78 (again, before his 1st major injury) so he was still healthy there as well.

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The more I look at the release dates for Fu Sheng's films, it does not make sense that during "Life Gamble", he was suffering from any injury. Let me explain. "Life Gamble" was released in February 1979, and "Deadly Breaking Sword" was released in April 1979. If this is true, his part in "Life Gamble" does not reflect recovering from an injury. Prior to "Life Gamble" was "Avenging Eagle" released September 1978. Don't think he got too hurt on AE! So now we are back to whats the deal with "Life Gamble".

This film was originally completed in (1977) and released Twice !

Once as:

Poison For Poison - 04-26-78 (Released in Taiwan)

Then as:

Life Gamble - 02-22-79 (Released in Hong Kong)

If you'll notice, Fu Sheng only throws (1) kick during the whole film [at the end] and

most of his other scenes are "Talkin & Knife throwing". So, technically, he may have had

an injury in (1977). As you'll recall Brave Archer-1, didn't call for a lot of action/movement

on his part. This was the least he had ever moved in a film [and these were Action Films].

Studios release films at varying times. Chang's films were released many times, up to

(9) months apart [from the time a film is finished], til its' release date.

+ Example: 5 Deadly Venoms was also shot and completed in (1977),

but wasn't released until the Summer of the following year. +

Near the end of his contract [and when the Venoms were falling apart], his films would be released

within months of the others [considering how well the films did].

And if a star was having a good month at the box-office, any of his other films, would

be released to capitalize on this as well. In (1972) around (9) films featuring

Chen Kuan-Tai were released - following the "Overnight success" of the Boxer From Shantung.

Even films he shot before (with other companies) and/or ones where he had only a minor role -

if he was in it, people wanted to see it.

Boxing's on, gotta go...

bjv

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Good information, thank you. You seem to have a cache of production notes, or super research, well done. Sure would like to break into the old Shaw records, and get all the dirt on what was made when. And of course you are right about the release dates, sometimes Fu Sheng's looks do not match the order of any of the lists I have seen, haha.

What say you all, lets break into Shaw Studios. ahhahahahahhahahahahahahahaha

Thanks again for the great post.

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Ah friends!

You with all the information (release dates, etc) makes me feel teasy hahhahhaa! As MarsHarmony or Teako170 says, is very important the exact moment of the release, so we must calculate the time when the movie was shot. But maybe, a movie could be stopped many times for several reasons. I still wonder what happened with the serious injuries that Alexander suffered the first Black September.... Which was the movie stopped because his health? Because an actor with those pains can't shot, or remain without too much action in scenes. I think in Life Gamble. If he has not injuries, could be the script. Could be the attention focused in the Venoms. And could be the beginning of the disputes between Alexander and Chang Cheh. I still not understand his character. If he was the protagonist, must be in action all the time. So, some troubles on here. If you shift the attention to others characters ... one reason is needed. The intention of the director is clearly to show the Venoms, not Alexander. So, what was the reason?:cry:

And in Brave Archer agree with MarsHarmony, the part I and II was good, but the part III and IV shows troubles: the script in first place. If a director change the script is for one reason. Disagreements with Alexander? Complications with his health? And Alexander in BA 4 seated minutes and minutes of running time doing nothing! Must it be a reason. How your mega star could be the protagonist of a movie and remain in the shadows? Or maybe Alexander do this movie for contract and not put passion on it, just a business transaction: "Ok Mr. Chang Cheh I will do it for legal reasons" hahahhahah! And remember again the final line of the script in this movie: "I guess that is the end". Double sense. Just especulating.

And MarsHarmony please! Alexander never in the life bores me, I love him from planet earth to the end of the universe! I just wondering what happened with the performances, and the link between them and the Black Septembers. You know, MarsHarmony, I'm completely in love for Alexander, I can see him (as you says) sleeping all the running time of a movie and he put poison my heart with passion hahahahhaha!

Sorry because my english, is too hard to explain me all the time!

See you around

Alexandra

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This film was originally completed in (1977) and released Twice !

Once as:

Poison For Poison - 04-26-78 (Released in Taiwan)

Then as:

Life Gamble - 02-22-79 (Released in Hong Kong)

If you'll notice, Fu Sheng only throws (1) kick during the whole film [at the end] and

most of his other scenes are "Talkin & Knife throwing". So, technically, he may have had

an injury in (1977). As you'll recall Brave Archer-1, didn't call for a lot of action/movement

on his part. This was the least he had ever moved in a film [and these were Action Films].

Studios release films at varying times. Chang's films were released many times, up to

(9) months apart [from the time a film is finished], til its' release date.

bjv

Great info! You read my mind, concerning the performance of Alexander in Life Gamble. One kick, and the rest of the time talking and "knife throwing". I noticed his style of stand up. The feet positions. Despite all those facts he got to tint his character with a dark, mysterious air sorrounding him, because he was a good actor! Maybe Teako170 have some pictures to see on here or is forbidden? A picture is more than thousend words. :monkey16

Alexandra

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Maybe Teako170 have some pictures to see on here or is forbidden? A picture is more than thousend words.

You'll find some rather large images of Fu Sheng in this thread.

If you have something specific in mind, I do do requests (unlike a certain Dr. Johnny Fever).

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I heard that Hammer were going to do a third action film with Fu Sheng but after both Legend Of The 7 Golden Vampires and Shatter were box office flops they never bothered. He would have spoken English in that. Don't know how true these stories were.

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Ok, MarsHarmony says that Teako170 rocks ... and I'm jealous... ok! nobody clarified my what happened with the injuries suffered by Alexander and how them affected his work, because don't tell me that with such disasters all the projects were well done, in time, etc.... grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!:monkey13

Alexandra (suffering like Maria Magdalena)

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Not sure what info you're seeking Alexandra, as this has been posted in the past, but to recap:

AFS had two serious injuries in 1978 & 79. Known as "Black September," these two accidents both occurred in the month of Sept.; one year apart. First accident occurred while filming "Deadly Breaking Sword." Fu Sheng was supposedly not feeling well a week before the accident but continued to work. He fell on the set, back first, hitting his head on an urn. He had a concussion and there was internal bleeding. He wore a neck brace for a few months, continued to suffer dizzy spells for some time, and even visited a specialist in the UK.

The second accident occurred on the set of "Heroes Shed No Tears" in which he broke his right leg. He was out of action for several months and his injury affected several pictures including HSNT, Brave Archer 3, Return of the Sentimental Swordsman, and two others. During this "down time" he followed Jenny around, who was on tour, and visited the US and Canada.

I hope this answers your questions.

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