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I was wondering if he is still about? As havent seen him in any films for along time and also if there is any interviews with him? As never seen any i bet he has some intresting stories on Jackie and Bruce he has worked with pretty much everyone.

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@thehangman according to James Tien's Wikipedia page, he did retire after 1996's How to Meet the Lucky Stars?. I'd love to see an in depth interview with this actor, not only for his own career and connection to the Litle Dragon, but also for his work on the early Jackie Chan/Lo Wei flicks. Someone must have tried to contact this guy over the years?.

 

James Tien as the villian, with Chin Lung, in a scene from The Bone Crushing Kid(1979).

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1 hour ago, TibetanWhiteCrane said:

As far as I heard he's not doing interviews and is a bit on the ornery side.

Thats too bad, I bet the guy could tell some stories from the golden era of Kung Fu Cinema.

 

1 hour ago, shaw golden said:

from 1970s magazine only have a scan myself so not sure on quality

Cool images, thanks for sharing those on the  forums @shaw golden

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Can you blame him? Bruce Lee ate his lunch. Than he later ate and ate himself. I heard he is as big as Samo. I mean, I am sure he isn't to happy to keep getting asked "What was Bruce Lee like to work with?" instead of " 'Naked Comes the Huntress' has some real moral questions, like the girl killing the animals she tries to rescue. What did you think of that?" or "Who was your favorite costar?" We have to remember, acting didn't pay well back then, so it's not like he's made bank from the movies. Some of those guys did well with investments in Real Estate, but Paul Chang Chung was pretty broke and died of cancer, and from what I understand Chen Sing is not financially set well either. Don't get me started on some of the venoms, Li Ching, etc. Chow and Shaw really exploited their talent. I am sure some of those guys did better making crap independents, etc. The move was to create your own production company.

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1 hour ago, NoKUNGFUforYU said:

Can you blame him? Bruce Lee ate his lunch.

True, that guy ate a lot of people's lunch's at the time, Tony Liu being anohter example, but some still don't mind talking about the star. I dont think he would have been asked to work on G.O.D, if he was public in his dislike of BL at the time?.

 

1 hour ago, NoKUNGFUforYU said:

We have to remember, acting didn't pay well back then, so it's not like he's made bank from the movies. Some of those guys did well with investments in Real Estate, but Paul Chang Chung was pretty broke and died of cancer, and from what I understand Chen Sing is not financially set well either. Don't get me started on some of the venoms, Li Ching, etc. Chow and Shaw really exploited their talent. I am sure some of those guys did better making crap independents, etc. The move was to create your own production company.

It's sad to hear former stars falling on hard times, Chan Sing must have had some money to retire to Canada?. There's people still making money off Kung Fu movies, and while they might not be making millions. It's still sad to hear that the stars dont get any profit from this, or in some cases even know they are still admired in the West.

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Love to hear what James Tien has to say. Not just on Bruce but the entire era of kung fu movies he was involved with. I watched one with him the other week , a Carter Wong vehicle where he played the villian, film was average but he was still pretty good in it.

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You have to think, some of these guys may be aware of how much money some of these movies have made and still make while they got a weeks pay or whatever. Acting is very working class back then. That is one of the reasons people cranked out so many roles, even up until the early 90's. Simon Yam (eccentric character) had said he would just crank out an insane amount of work to get rich so he would not wind up like some of these guys. One of the things about Shaw studios was 3 hot meals and a flop. Like working in a factory. Chen Kuan Tai would call Run Run "Boss Shaw". Also, people got punched, kicked and cut all the time making these, and I imagine not everyone was actually "into" full contact martial arts, so that probably was more of a work hazard then fun. It's not like George Clooney or anything for them.

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11 minutes ago, NoKUNGFUforYU said:

You have to think, some of these guys may be aware of how much money some of these movies have made and still make while they got a weeks pay or whatever. Acting is very working class back then. That is one of the reasons people cranked out so many roles, even up until the early 90's. Simon Yam (eccentric character) had said he would just crank out an insane amount of work to get rich so he would not wind up like some of these guys. One of the things about Shaw studios was 3 hot meals and a flop. Like working in a factory. Chen Kuan Tai would call Run Run "Boss Shaw". Also, people got punched, kicked and cut all the time making these, and I imagine not everyone was actually "into" full contact martial arts, so that probably was more of a work hazard then fun. It's not like George Clooney or anything for them.

Good post @NoKUNGFUforYU.

I guess thats another reason why a lot of the H.K starlets of the era, would marry some rich guy, and retire from the business after only a handful of movies. Shaw Brothers was just a factory, and they treated their staff like factory workers, working long hours for little pay, from what I've read about their approach to movie making.

 

23 minutes ago, saltysam said:

I watched one with him the other week , a Carter Wong vehicle where he played the villian, film was average but he was still pretty good in it.

He wasnt the best screen fighter, but he always had a good presence, and he could play a variety of parts equally well. Old master, young hero, two faced villain or bully etc.

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Yup. Unfortunately the old "tradition" of manual labor exploitation found it's way to the burgeoning Hong Kong/Chinese film industry. Bruce Lee made no secret of his personal distrust of both Raymond Crow and Run Run Shaw, and indeed, it was one of the main reasons he intended on focusing on Hollywood had he lived.

I don't feel James Tien or anyone else resents Bruce for "stealing" the spotlight. No one had the faintest idea he would become such a superstar, and Lee always wanted to ensure his colleagues had a fair chance in that extremely abusive filming climate.

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1 hour ago, NoKUNGFUforYU said:

You have to think, some of these guys may be aware of how much money some of these movies have made and still make while they got a weeks pay or whatever. Acting is very working class back then. That is one of the reasons people cranked out so many roles, even up until the early 90's. Simon Yam (eccentric character) had said he would just crank out an insane amount of work to get rich so he would not wind up like some of these guys. One of the things about Shaw studios was 3 hot meals and a flop. Like working in a factory. Chen Kuan Tai would call Run Run "Boss Shaw". Also, people got punched, kicked and cut all the time making these, and I imagine not everyone was actually "into" full contact martial arts, so that probably was more of a work hazard then fun. It's not like George Clooney or anything for them.

Its true, some of these movies were making money especially overseas, who pocketed these revenes was anyone from film makers and distributors anyone apart from the actors, not james alone but as you says plenty others. lts a shame they were not provided for better, then we would not be having this discussion

bruce,maria yi and james having dinner with producer lo wei talking film deal

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7 minutes ago, Fist of the Heavenly Sky said:

I don't feel James Tien or anyone else resents Bruce for "stealing" the spotlight. No one had the faintest idea he would become such a superstar, and Lee always wanted to ensure his colleagues had a fair chance in that extremely abusive filming climate.

Without derailing this thread, BL became unpopular in some circles, becuase he tried to improve many facets of the behind the scenes goings on. How the stuntmen were treat etc, he was shaking the cage not just on-screen but off too. James Tien himself started at at Shaw Brothers, before later jumping to Golden Harvest studios.

 

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Very interesting contributions. The "look behind the silver screen" is much too often a sad one.

Sorry for being off topic but THANKS for this

13 hours ago, NoKUNGFUforYU said:

(...) 'Naked Comes the Huntress' has some real moral questions, like the girl killing the animals she tries to rescue. What did you think of that?" (...)

I did not watch that movie thru the end because I got so mad about the hypocrisy.

I saw James Tien just the other day in SHAOLIN IRON FINGER, he and Woo Gam were the movie's highlights for me.

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